Eventual Consistency (EC) models are being increasingly adopted today with the compelling demand on high availability even at the expense of consistency. However, most EC systems are currently running in the wild, assuming that servers can only crash/recover and clients are benign. A recently designed secure EC system based on Byzantine Fault Tolerance (BFT) opened a long discussion with an expert, in both areas, and lead to the conclusion that "There are no BFT fans anymore…". Having spent some time on designing both models, I will try to open a discussion on the tension between both BFT and EC communities to explain its potential causes and how to mitigate some of the "claimed" caveats of both models in our secure EC proposal. The talk also aims to interact with the audience to identify the reasons that hamper the adoption of BFT in industry and what is missing in both models to come up with more reliable EC systems.